Her induction was more important as a recognition of her ability to rise back up without her abusive husband that it was about the quality and impact of her solo catalog. I know Bill has him higher, but he doesn't have the body of work just yet. After all, I am a huge "progressive rock" supporter, n'est-ce pas? "A Legend In Its Own Time" J Dilla (as an exercept of his song "One Eleven"). I think the Doors and Grateful Dead should be in the fourth level of the pyramid. -Use 5 levels in your pyramid 105. The (Young) Rascals: 5/10 ELO, Joan Baez, Yes, Tupac Shakur, Journey, Pearl Jam, Bon Jovi, Dire Straits, Sister Rosetta Thorpe, The Cars, Nina Simone, Moody Blues. "Mighty Good Lovin"-Edwin Starr, Chris Clark. The Velvet Underground They're not interested in "secondhand influence" or "undercurrent carriage" of rhythms, sounds, influence or innovation. 1989 Bob Seger: 7/10 Carly Simon (Level 1), Posted by Jordan Einstein on Wednesday, 05/4/2022 @ 15:49pm. Best hip hop: I don't much care for it, but even I would concede Public Enemy's suitability. 3. Bon Jovi would, naturally, be closer to the bottom, Posted by Tyler Partnow on Tuesday, 09/25/2018 @ 20:19pm. 110. 2016 by fjdbookreview. No. The first change I would make to this pyramid: Michael Jackson to Level 5, perhaps replacing Jimi Hendrix. 3. Dionne Warwick (Level 1), Posted by Jordan Einstein on Sunday, 04/24/2022 @ 13:54pm, Oh i have more adjustments: I'm coming up with a questionnaire/survey on the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame's inductees. Posted by Bill G on Wednesday, 05/8/2019 @ 06:47am. The "Lovin Spoonful: 5/10 Difficult to say. Otherwise, the other groups I like althrough I disagree with you on Linda Ronstadt because I happen to like her music and her voice. "Yester Love" Gerald Wilson & His Orchestra. Kiss: 7/10 Nina Simone (Level 2) As a Beatle, sure, but definitely not as a solo artist. Let's kick this thing off with Bill Simmons' idea for the Basketball Hall of Fame - the Pyramid, he calls it. Dwight Howard [from Level 1, below McGrady]. The Stooges (Level 3) That's all I have. Nina Simone Yes - 2 (they could be a 1 too but I like them a lot and they are one of the definitive progressive rock bands so I upped them to a 2) 107. He never got over the hump (I'm using past tense because the Rockets are done as contenders, unless there is some COVID-19 weirdness), and that was mostly on him. Most snubbed before finally inducted: Neil Diamond, hands down. Two Oscars, helped gave popularity in industrial rock, and be a mostly one man band (where at the time was unheard of) to say the least. -Non-US or UK? This is what this site is partly for, to share opinions and all. It's that "X" Factor that separates true legends from also-rans.The Men from the Boys. "5)Elvis Costello-Alison, and I cannot name another song. And to me, the John Stockton vs. Chris Paul debate would be the most important chapter. 180. Theyre not even one of my favorite bands, but with one album they changed the genre of punk and did more for the British music scene than bands like Yes could ever dream of doing. He is quite vital (i don't think anyone can claim to be the best selling artist in 2 different decades). Blake Griffin doesn't make the Pyramid, but he was a Top 3 guy for a few years there. Jackson Browne: 7/10 204. 9/10 = All Time Greats Rod Stewart: 8/10 The Hollies I would also move Talking Heads up to the 4th tier. Eric Clapton: 9/10 B. Posted by Zach on Wednesday, 10/30/2013 @ 17:40pm, Hi, Zach. "Who's Gonna Take The Blame" Capone N. Noreaga (as the basis of their song "Live On Live Long"). Journey Fats Domino. Feel free to argue about the order in the comments below, but remember, you can't move someone up without moving someone else down.. Van Halen: 9/10 Laura Nyro He finished Top 10 in MVP voting 4 times. Posted by Mike on Thursday, 02/6/2014 @ 14:58pm, 1. Either you have the music and the accomplishments or you don't. Axl Rose managed to alienate the rest of GNR when the success went to his head and forced them to sign over the rights to the band name. Patti Smith: 9/10 Either the music stands up or it doesn't." Metallica also, but stance is just that -stance. The guy was a good singer-songwritermaybe the best of the 70's, but his innovation as a solo artist was pretty much zero. All the Indiana Jones films 186. 96. I'd buy front row seats for a weird off between Prince and Dr. John. 1992 Professor Longhair These questions and more are broken down in our second Pyramid Podcast, with Northwestern Universitys director of sports journalism, J.A. Level 4 "You've Really Got a Hold on Me" Percy Sledge, Barbara McNair, The Beatles, The Temptations, The Supremes, The Zombies, Aidan Smith, Sonny & Cher, Mickey Gilley, Eddie Money, Cyndi Lauper, The Bobs, Greg Brown, Small Faces, Bobby McFerrin, Derrick Harriott, UFO8, Mike and The Mechanics, and She & Him among many others. The Cure are my fave band and I think they have been highly influential on the new generation, they are celebrating their 40th anniversary as a band and still playing live yearly (suck on that, Rolling Stones), and I'm pretty happy with them as a 2. Seriously. Sam Cooke: 10/10 Booker T. and the M.G.s "You've Really Got a Hold on Me" Percy Sledge, Barbara McNair, The Beatles, The Temptations, The Supremes, The Zombies, Aidan Smith, Sonny & Cher, Mickey Gilley, Eddie Money, Cyndi Lauper, The Bobs, Greg Brown, Small Faces, Bobby McFerrin, Derrick Harriott, UFO8, and She & Him among many others. You could even have 5 levels of 3 artist at each level) Before his ACL, he was the best player in the league. You could even include acts who broke significant individual records (though, personally, I say no). "Here I Go Again" Chazz Dixon, Carey Bell, A.J. "Much Better Off" J Dilla. The Doors: 10/10 He really doesn't. He took a Magic team with no other All-Stars to the Finals while beating LeBron in LeBron's prime. Posted by Tony on Friday, 08/8/2014 @ 17:19pm, Overrated, or too high on the pyramid: Ramones, Elton John, Little Richard, The Clash, Elvis Costello, Aerosmith, Blondie, Alice Cooper, Genesis. He's Level 4 by Isiah. They have reached such a high level of popularity & respect. "Special Occasion - Jim Gilstrap. 201. Current popularity and connection to grunge aside, Neil Young isn't worthy of the high ranking he's been afforded. That's Level 5. Rick Caffey Audacy Atlanta. Level Two: Im-Ho-Tep (Boris Karloff) Absolutely nothing you can learn from a song that can't already be ascertained from a documentary or history lecture. 2000 69. Ground floor of The Pyramid. Posted by some guy on Friday, 03/27/2020 @ 16:59pm. I would've put Whitney Houston at Level 2, or 3 at most, because of how commercially successful she was and influenced a lot of singers to this day. 11. Over here in Britain May has been a wildlife activist and critic of fox-hunting Most civilized: Cat, Smokey, Bruce -You can place as many artists as you want at each level, however each level must have equal to more of the amount of artists than the level before it (For example: Level 1 can have 1 artist, Level 2 can have 3 artists, Level 3 can then have 3 artists also, but Level 4 can't have 2 or less, but it can have 3 or more. Posted by AlexVoltaire on Thursday, 01/25/2018 @ 23:09pm. The Ramones are a case in point. If you consider what the Velvet Underground did to not be metal, then the Velvets. ABBA: 7/10 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Miracles_discography Register for this free event . During a time period when Nirvana were pretty much single handedly destroying the metal scene, and metal kids were becoming grunge kids, they released the most iconic metal tune of all time, in an album that sold around 30 million copies. If I wrote a serious short book on the updated Pyramid, I'd make use of the same 1:1 comparisons that Simmons did. 6. Michael Jordan Bill Russell Kareem Abdul-Jabbar Magic Johnson Larry Bird Wilt Chamberlain Tim Duncan Kobe Bryant Jerry West Oscar Robertson This thread is archived New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast 0 33 Related Topics Bill Simmons Hall of Fame Pyramid: Give Major Weakness of the top 10 NBA All Time. Posted by Robert Henry on Tuesday, 05/31/2016 @ 13:51pm. 57. The L-shaped, bi-level building houses more than 18,000 square feet of . The Beatles: 10/10 Wait, you'd put Bon Jovi and Journey in the top tier with the Beatles? Pat Benatar 9/10 = All Time Greats Fats Domino: 10/10 The Book of Basketball - Bill Simmons 2010-12-07 NEW YORK TIMES BESTSELLER The NBA according to The Sports Guynow updated with fresh takes on LeBron, the Celtics, and more! "Determination" The Contours. 2008 http://whoisbigger.com/entity/Category:Rock_and_Roll_Hall_of_Fame_inductees Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 01/29/2015 @ 19:58pm. Posted by Classic Rock on Tuesday, 01/1/2019 @ 10:57am. Paul Simon: 8/10 In my opinion, this is quite a great insight on how GOAT list should go. "If You Can Want" The Dirtbombs, Barbara McNair, Chazz Dixon. Creedence Clearwater Revival I would definitely say Bruce Springsteen, Aretha Franklin, and David Bowie should, maybe with Pink Floyd and Neil Young right behind sometime in the near future. I personally think Radiohead and U2 and perhaps solo Lennon are 3s, and CSN, Clapton, and maybe BB King or The Byrds belong in 4. By choosing I Accept, you consent to our use of cookies and other tracking technologies. 7. 1991 Howlin' Wolf The O'Jays This might be the most controversial placement. Hakeem Olajuwon, 11. Gene Pitney Posted by AlexVoltaire on Friday, 12/18/2015 @ 08:03am, Deep Purple/NWA- Level 2 I like them for what they were, and not the over-hyped myth. So that doesn't really mean anything. Shawn Kemp, 101. -I have to say Madonna. By kbarbs37. 1997 Bill Monroe "I agree about John Lennon. 57. Finished season 1 of it, its not over. Even if she directly influenced the Riot Grrl scene. Lou Reed Both were the darlings of the same type of audience in their day, but REM was a very different type of band. "Give Me Just Another Day" Young Jeezy (as the basis for his song, "Mr 17.5"), Schoolboy Q, Wade Waters, Christina Milian, Rick Ross, Marco Polo feat. No 2010s NBA game unleashed more what ifs than Game 6 of the 2016 Western Conference finals. Bob Marley, too. "After All" The Supremes, The Marvelettes. Putting him ahead of bands like The Byrds, The Doors, Black Sabbath and most of the other bands on the 3rd tier is ridiculous. He could've complained about being a 6th man, but didn't. Tier 3 - Tupac Shakur, Pearl Jam Lowest tier. The Byrds Biggie Smalls-4 While there are plenty of eligible snubbed artists out there, there are likely very few, if any, who would make it into Level 4 of the pyramid if they were ever inducted (Level 5 is impenetrable at this point by any non-Hall of Famer). 2)The Ramones-They need to be demoted. 41. The Small Faces: 6/10 ), Posted by Joe on Wednesday, 03/25/2020 @ 22:48pm. Carl Perkins 2009 1999 The Moonglows: 6/10 Crosby, Stills & Nash: 7/10 Manu was damn good and didn't get the traditional accolades to back it up. Aretha Franklin: 10/10 Bump him up. 13. The Yardbirds Etta James: 9/10 Aside from that, I don't recall claiming that my shit doesn't stink; that would be very much unlike me. They at least had a beat and memorable songs. Where would you change things up? 10/10 = Immortals, Legends & Icons I'm open to arguments that he should be higher than this (maybe closer to Rodman), but his offense tailed off over the past 2 years. Posted by Roy on Thursday, 04/28/2016 @ 05:27am. Earl Monroe, 76. "I Don't Blame You At All" - Rosetta Hightower. Deep Purple (This is an incomplete list, as songs by the Miracles continue to be covered by more artists each year) You can rattle the L5 guys off the top of your head: The Beatles. Since then, he has mentioned in episodes of his podcast numerous changes that he has made to this list. Santana: 8/10 Reserved for the "No-Doubt-About-It" Hall of Famers, these guys were undoubtedly the best at their position for years and years, with all the requisite "rsum" stats to match.unfortunately, there's a distinct, crucial difference between Level 3 and Level 4 (explanation coming). Bill Simmons remembers the day when he learned The Secret of basketball from Hall of Famer Isiah Thomas, then built his New York Times no. I would think acts like Parliament - Funkadelic, Sex Pistols, Frank Zappa, Curtis Mayfield, The Stooges, AC/DC, Guns N' Roses & The Yardbirds should move up to Level 3 because they have defined genres in their own right. Glory For some reason they never get as much credit as they deserve (especially when compared to other Motown artists like Marvin Gaye, The Supremes and The Temptations). ******* Queen Posted by John R.C. Lynyrd Skynyrd Name Affiliation Year. - Formatting might look weird, but I didn't want to take up crazy amounts of space. Free shipping for many products! The best of the best. Posted by Navonte Robertson on Monday, 07/26/2021 @ 09:57am. However, my perception of The Pretenders has always been that they are similar in stature to Heart (which is accurately depicted in the Pyramid with both on Tier 1). The Grateful Dead FJD's Book Reviews. Distantly tied for third includes Flavor Flav, Lennon ("I'm starting a new religion, and I'm calling it baggism"), Sly Stone. Is the top rung ever going to be added to? There are many, many 2000s and '10s era bands that are more engaging. Posted by Tommy on Saturday, 01/17/2015 @ 23:32pm. Braveheart Nina Simone- 4 Then, on Feb. 24, 2019, he revised Curry to be top 20. Call it elitist, call it exclusionary, but I've experienced a major shift in how I listen to music and evaluate it. Yes Tom Chambers, 109. Traffic He followed that up with 6 more solid seasons including 2 more All-NBA teams and 3 more All-Star appearances. The Bee Gees 151. 174. AC/DC Randy Newman (middle 2nd) George Harrison: 8/10 189. I'd probably move David Bowie & U2 to 5 level. No again. 132. Best outside The US and UK: U2, Neil Young, Rush, Joni Mitchell, Bob Marley. Albert King: 1, Posted by Classic Rock on Monday, 02/11/2013 @ 20:53pm. Favorite Hip-Hop inductee? Inductee that should have been first-ballot (again, don't answer Rush*)? "Save Me" The Undertones 32. 85. Joan Jett is currently in last place for her solo career. 127. Hall and Oates Stockton at 30 and CP3 at 42. KISS The Impressions: 7/10 Earth, Wind and Fire Re: Bill Simmons NBA Hall of Fame Pyramid Reply #15 on: June 02, 2010, 11:44:59 pm . The Mavs had Dirk, a semi-washed Kidd, Tyson Chandler, two diminutive scorers and 80% of Shawn Marion. Bill Stewart WJBF-TV 2015 72. Billy Cunningham, 55. Bird, 5. Nina Simone The Meters - 1, Posted by Tyler on Friday, 10/6/2017 @ 12:50pm, The pyramid hasnt been updated with last years inductees, but here is my take on 2018: The Lion King, Posted by Andrew on Wednesday, 10/30/2013 @ 20:04pm. 95. 16. @ Follower This website saves cookies to your browser in order to improve your online experience and show you personalized content. The Hollies: 3/10 "If You Can Want" The Dirtbombs, Barbara McNair, Chazz Dixon. The Cars: 7/10 The second part was a run as the second-best Robin of all-time. Frank Zappa The Sixth Man award almost always goes to the NBAs highest-scoring bench player. Bob Seger "Mickey's Monkey" Mother's Finest, Martha and the Vandellas, The Supremes, The Hollies, The Young Rascals, John Mellencamp, Lou Christie, Cannibal & the Headhunters, The C.A.Quintet, The Defenders, Chris Catena, The Sugar Beats, The Mac Truque. Steve Miller Probably both The Miracles and Sabbath. Care to post it here? Martha and the Vandellas Billy Joel Lionel Richie (Level 1) I also love the story about a lady who got a knock on her door and when she opened it it was Pirince and another guy. I did read an article once that said Radiohead were the new REM. 205. Your favorite inductees (You can pick at least 7)? Should have been first ballot: Genesis, Black Sabbath, Queen. If Nick Drake ever gets in, he wins hands down. 202. 46. . "More Love" Kim Carnes, Paul Young, Barbara McNair, Mica Paris, The 5th Dimension, Rick Webb, Foster Sylvers. Dezmond, Del Shannon: 5/10 Yes, this high. Jimi Hendrix. Since Deep Purple is ranked #69 on your Rock Rankings (with some acts above them yet to be inducted), yet are no more than a Level 1, can we take it that the Rankings (or Pyramid) are totally meaningless now? For mine, check out my top 75. Nine Inch Nails Bill Sharman, 60. Janis Joplin: 10/10 1) THE MIRACLES at # 32 Curry has been great for six years. Lynyrd Skynyrd: 8/10 I love Elton John, but he does not deserve to be ranked higher than Buddy Holly & the Crickets, Black Sabbath, Bo Diddley, Fats Domino, Little Richard, The Byrds, The Doors, and others who are more innovative and influential. Randy Newman: 1 Heart The Allman Brothers Band: 9/10 Favorite Hip-Hop inductee? 2016 Does ninety-six players sound like a good number? Joan Baez- 4 1 bestselling book from 2009. 2020 Either Sam Cooke, Fats Domino, Roy Orbison, or anyone from Motown (remember, they were taught how to move about at high society functions). Michael Jackson, Sly Stone, George Clinton, Flava Flav, Prince, Frank Zappa, Dr. John, and Brian Wilson. Parker had a 12 year run where he was never the best point guard in the league, but he might've been the most important. Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers: 9/10 MC5 (Level 1) "My Girl Has Gone" Etienne Daho, Bobby Taylor, Edwyn Collins, Ken Parker. Run D.M.C. He certainly beats U2 and Bruce Springsteen in the I&I categories. Posted by John R.C. Did they hit sell millions of records, have over a dozen hits or win a lot of awards? I'm not going to wade into these waters. Do you know when he mentioned this? 82. Nirvana Fleetwood Mac: 8/10 A Tribe Called Quest (Level 2 or 3) All-Star Game Selections by Player; All-NBA and All-NBA Team Selections by Player; All-Defensive Team Selections by Player; Referee Awards. 2. 154. Blondie He's a flopper. Monty Python's The Meaning of Life Peter Gabriel As for who I think next year will be: Nirvana, Deep Purple (long overdue, though I wouldn't complain if KISS went instead), some combination of The Cure/Depeche Mode/The Smiths, N.W.A., Chic, Posted by Sam on Thursday, 04/11/2013 @ 12:25pm. Del Shannon 199. As a link between boogie-woogie, jump blues, and rhythm & blues, he is a highly important name and should not be ranked lower than less relevant names like Buffalo Springfield, The (Young) Rascals, Jackson Browne, The Righteous Brothers, and Gene Pitney. Jimmy Reed: 8/10 7. And in each role the actor shines with tools he says hes gained from poetry, his family, and yes, even clown class. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Van Halen: 9/10, Posted by Jordan Einstein on Friday, 05/13/2022 @ 01:33am, Final part of rating the performers. Darlene Love: 3/10 Deep Purple (Level 2) Pat Benatar: 6/10 6. E.T. As far as the 2013 inductees are concerned and their tier placement is concerned: I would also move Buddy Holly And The Crickets up to the top. DEFINITELY !! He was one of the first rock and rollers to incorporate politics and social issues and he mostly did that during his solo career. 163. Bobby "Blue" Bland: 8/10 12. The Temptations: 10/10 I'm going to pull a Simmons here and admit that I swapped Kidd and Payton because a washed-up Payton barely played for the '06 Heat that won a title while Kidd was actually important to the '11 Mavs. Jason Voigt, "The Hurt is Over" The DT's ---------------------------------------------- 168. U2 73. "Nowhere To Go- Kanye West (as the basis of his song "About An Angel"), Beanie Sigel (as "Got Nowhere"), Freeway John R.C., 14. Also, I would put The Stooges in The Clash's place. "Special Occasion - Jim Gilstrap. Sabbath, Queen, Aerosmith, Beastie Boys, Alice Cooper, Pink Floyd Electric Light Orchestra- 3 Percy Sledge: 2/10 Who isn't? Anyways, hope you browsed through. The purpose of these rules are to keep it even, in order for one artist to go up a level another artist has to go down a level. David Bowie, Velvet Underground, Frank Zappa, Beastie Boys, Patti Smith, Joni Mitchell, Black Sabbath and The Stooges Whitney Houston (Level 2) Gene Vincent: Influenced The Beatles, The Clash, Jeff Page and Jimmy Page (Led Zeppelin). Rush (middle 4th) 206. 1987 Louis Jordan Clearly one of the 10 best players in the league in the latter half of this decade, but got saddled with an incompetent front office. It is nice to see that you can be objective about The Byrds importance although you admit to not being a fan, but I think your dislike for Neil is getting in the way of your objectivity. Earth, Wind & Fire: 8/10 I don't see the influence or quality, honestly. First, I would tack on some lesser known blues and R&B singers like Blind Lemon Jefferson, W.C. The one who opened the doors for all of the OTHERSmost of whom THEY wrote songs for. Is Curry already the greatest shooter of all time? 15. See More by this Creator. 34. Posted by Jason Voigt on Monday, 09/24/2018 @ 16:47pm. 72. Rush: 7/10 I mean does anyone (be honest) go home and listen to a Ramones record? 10. Off the top of my head, I think it was something like MJ, LBJ, Russell, Kareem, Magic, Bird, Wilt, Duncan, Kobe, West, Oscar, Hakeem, Shaq, Moses, KD. SHOP AROUND, YOU'VE REALLY GOT A HOLD ON ME, OOO BABY BABY, THE TRACKS OF MY TEARS, MORE LOVE, THE TEARS OF A CLOWN, I SECOND THAT EMOTION,BABY BABY DON'T CRY, LOVE MACHINEand MORE !! 35. If someone HAD to go for him, it would probably be Ray Charles. And oh, yeah, let's get the Moody Blues IN before we decide which tier they should be on. 6. Eminem (Level 4) 210. 2/10 = Failure Wes Unseld, 47. Lavern Baker: 6/10 There's no way he's a bigger deal than Cream, The Band, The Doors, Black Sabbath, The Police, Jerry Lee Lewis, CSN, Metallica or Aerosmith. To learn more or opt-out, read our Cookie Policy. Solomon Burke Led Zeppelin: 10/10 I too personally dislike thier music except "Express Yourself" and I just don't understand why so meny praise them when all they did was steer rap down a more gangester and racist path. Four All-NBA appearances, six All-Stars, 2nd best or 3rd best player on 4 champs and a runner-up. Tier 5 looks pretty solid. Sex Pistols: 9/10 Lennon's massive hypocrisy shouldn't be overlooked either. A Fish Called Wanda Songs originally recorded by THE MIRACLES later covered by other artists. The Zombies All You Touch and All You See: Dark Side of the Moon at 50. This thread is archived "Influence" is not really a matter of opinion. Has any modern superstar ever had more career-related what ifs? Tupac Shakur: 10/10 The Cars LeBron James (up from Level 4, below Barkley). -Most influential? 1993 Dinah Washington Nope! Tracy McGrady, 89. Lavish parties excluded then the guys from Queen. La Bomba [same thing] I'm not a RAWKist, but if I obey the asterisk, I'd probably say Percy Sledge. on Sunday, 03/10/2013 @ 20:26pm, 1. He's an 11-time All-Star (everyone with 8 or more appearances is in the actual hall) and was the 3rd best player on two Champs and two Finalists. -Led Zeppelin, Bob Dylan, the Rolling Stones, James Brown, Aretha Franklin On point! "The Hurt is Over" The DT's 17. Posted by Corey Finn on Wednesday, 05/4/2022 @ 08:15am. Replace "Were they just dominant at times?" Good point, Bill G. Let's also remember Percy Mayfield's 1950 blues classic Please Send Me Someone to Love, with its plea for tolerance and unity among the peoples of the world. The Miracles, Motown's first group, are the most covered Motown group of ALL TIME. Rage Against the Machine (Level 1 or 2) He was the 2nd best player on the Lakers teams from '08-'10, but didn't make the cut for the original Pyramid. 2003 What seemed important 15 years ago may not seem as important now. Jerry Lee Lewis "Bad Girl" Dazz Band. Hal Greer, 54. JR the BeatBeast & Mr. Solo Dolo & Queensbridge. Here are the questions: 8/10 = No Brainers [1] They also have the distinction of having more songs inducted into the Grammy Hall of Fame than any other Motown group." Wow, thanks for sharing, where do you get all this information from if I may know? Here are my responses: Part 3 coming soon! -Kindest? He was a Top 10 guy for basically the entire 2010s. Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers N.W.A: Level 2 (tough call, but Public Enemy is at the lowest part of 3, and they're about even, though PE had longer success) 157. And to all of the rest of you, whether you are Miracles fans or NOT: The DC5: 5/10 "Who's Loving You" The Jackson 5, En Vogue, Terence Trent D'Arby, Brenda Holloway, The Supremes, The Temptations, Honey Cone, Stevie B., Archie Bell & the Drells, Nikka Costa. Amen and speak the truth! See the rankings as for this Basketball Hall of Fame Sets set on 2/1/2022 1:11:50 PM. I wouldn't put KD over KG or Dirk, but he's definitely over Curry. "Point It Out"' The Supremes and The Temptations. 11. Some injury issues, but overblown. If the Bucks win the title? Chicago Depeche Mode Andrew - Just so you know, this Pyramid only includes acts that are in the actual Hall of Fame. He was (and still is) well-regarded by just about everyone regardless of genre. Posted by Gassman on Thursday, 10/31/2013 @ 11:28am. Is the top level EVER going to have more than twelve? They are a 2 at best. 1990 Louis Armstrong Queen: 10/10 2. Most influential besides Beatles, Elvis and Chuck: Bowies, Springsteen, Aretha (at least! Crosby Stills and Nash Inductee that should have been first-ballot (again, don't answer Rush*)? No. Pat Benatar (Level 1) ***. 8. Simmons believes that Nolan Ryan was a Tier 4 Baseball HoFer, while acknowledging that several people wouldn't put Nolan Ryan in the Hall at all. I can't say that I feel the same about Costello being even with The Talking Heads. Favorite induction year: 1986, 1987, 1988, 1989, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2006, 2013. LaVern Baker The Ventures Onev word: Plagiarism. 91. Donna Summer (middle 3rd) ELO 24. Level 3: You like what you like. My recent finds include Whispering Jack Smith, Billy Eckstine (What a voice this man had! Martha & The Vandellas: 8/10 110. Magic, 4. Carl Perkins: 10/10 And, while you're thinking about THAT, Consider THIS: And that's the Simmons Pyramid, right? 88. In fact, that statement is the only exception to the rule that Rush should even share the same sentence with that other band. Level 4: Janet Jackson: 9/10 Bon Jovi: 4/10 The Flamingos I put Costello on the same level as the Pretenders, a critically loved band whose music doesn't hold up. "I Don't Blame You At All" - Rosetta Hightower. Posted by Yours Truly on Tuesday, 09/25/2018 @ 14:24pm, Posted by Yours Truly on Tuesday, 09/25/2018 @ 17:10pm, Sex Pistols should be moved way up, Id put them at level one in my opinion. Adande. The Rock Hall rarely misses the no-brainer inductees. The Mamas and the Papas No, I just want to see on anyone's opinion on the Hall's inductees. Amen and speak the truth! Anybody read his book and know the ranking? Gasol won't get overlooked for the actual hall because of his int'l resume, but his NBA resume is pretty damn solid too. . Nate Thurmond, 51. 13. Posted by John R.C on Wednesday, 05/12/2021 @ 23:17pm. Over 10 years ago, ESPN's Bill Simmons 1 introduced the world to the concept of a Baseball Hall of Fame pyramid, as a way to provide relative importance to the inductees. Michael Jackson: 10/10 I'd at least move up Aretha, the Boss, and Bowie, Posted by Mike on Tuesday, 04/2/2019 @ 14:50pm. 44. Robert Parish, 67. (This is an incomplete list, as songs by the Miracles continue to be covered by more artists each year) GFW-It's simply that he was a first ballot inductee and yet looking over his discography it's quite underwhelming. 1987 Hank Williams Def Leppard: 6/10 Miles Davis (Level 2) Buddy Guy (including Chicago) The Clash: 10/10 "Got A Job" The Marcels Dave DeBusschere, 52. The Cars 7. 8. Randy Newman (middle 2nd) On which levels do you think each of these artists belongs? 30. 2002 The main ones: Joan Baez - 1 "Got A Job" The Marcels John Lennon: 10/10 1987 Thanks! Metallica: 10/10 3/10 = Mediocre Genesis: 7/10 Rating Numbers: Journey - 1 Janet Jackson Lloyd Price 1998 But the Celtics Brogdon is mounting a well-rounded campaign that hearkens back to some of the earliest Sixth Men. Whitney Houston-Level 2 Level 1 Duran Duran, Eurythmics, Carly Simon, Pat Benatar, Lionel Richie would all be level 1's in I'm afraid. Pearl Jam For new additions (NOT New Edition) to Level 5, I nominate Aerosmith, and either Aretha Franklin or Michael Jackson. Can't answer in seven. Laura Nyro: Influenced Billy Joel. SEE FOR YOURSELF !! Note: Emails will not be visible or used in any way, but are required. The Staple Singers: 8/10 I still say they're the most overrated band ever, and should only be on level 2. Posted by Follower on Thursday, 05/16/2019 @ 20:33pm. Deal wit' it, yo. Uh, yea. Lenny Wilkens, 81. Your favorite inductees (You can pick at least 7) Posted by John R.C. Level 5 is the top of the pyramid, literally and figuratively. What about Public Enemy?). Madonna should not even be there and in the pyramid's scheme she is higher that Frank Zappa and Jefferson Airplane? Blake Griffin does n't have the body of work just yet exception to the bottom, posted Follower! Del Shannon: 5/10 Yes, this pyramid: Michael Jackson, Stone! 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