I have noticed and gotten used to the act of verbal conflict as a cathartic entertainment. Thanks for the answers. The Authors noted a four cycle repetition. GENERATIONS: THE HISTORY OF AMERICAS FUTURE. What can we gain from this discussion? Recently, the most convincing has been things I've learned in my study of physics, of all things . 13 You were in Eden, the garden of God; every precious stone was your covering: The sardius, topaz, and diamond, beryl, onyx, and jasper, sapphire, turquoise, and emerald with gold. so I assume you do a lot of reading -- before this trip, in your spare time, did you read much fiction? You have to take into account that the universe is expanding, the Earth, the solar system and the galaxy are all moving. yep and you did post right after that I see. The fourth, time, is traveling away from us as precisely the same rate as it was a few moments ago. However there is a fear about being here that I can only define as uncertainty. So what if you don't believe he's a true time traveller? If I had all the time I needed, I would spend much more time downloading and archiving. Nothing I do here will affect any other worldline. I do not know what happens when we die. I find it interesting that my credibility and the phrases that describe it hinge on economic terms and whether or not I have something to sell. "It's possible that through his "slander" and "gossip," Satan turned one-third of the angelic host against God. What 82 page book written in England in 1884 is required reading for all physics students? Work outside the home? Boy gets girl usually another boy loses girl. Have we colonized the Moon? If it is to protect the rest of us, that isn't necessary. i never saw it on television happening.. but i know it happened. If you truely did travel back through time, you'd materialize in 1970 where the Earth WILL be in 2036, which is NOT Earth.. it's space. He has subjected himself to our scrutiny and you are jumping to his defense because you feel bad for him? By spinning these various microsingularities, a localized Kerr field is created. This type of "time travel" (should have been proven already on this worldline) with atomic clock experiments. there are other threads where battles in this war are fought . i can possibly understand how telling us that there will be a horrible bombing in canada..would affect the future .. someone on here may be from canada & keep their family away from the site of the bombing .. thus, changing future.. but telling us something of little importance will NOT change the future! (NKJV)
""""". The 100 Kt to 1 Mt are the most popular. It is very difficult to have children in 2036 for environmental reasons.35. Also, it's very hard to eat a bicycle. Lighten up! If you truely did travel back through time, you'd materialize in 1970 where the Earth WILL be in 2036, which is the vacuum of space. Does the civil war start in such a way that with this foreknowledge those willing will have time to remove themselves to safer locations. Drive cars? I value this opportunity to share experiences. One of the Possibilities MAY occur and, one and ONLY one of the Probabilities WILL occur. I only want the honest truth. How long will it take for the loop to decay? Are most the books available old or new? This type of time travel is also isolated to a single worldline. Is there a Global Superpower state and what nation is it. you only discuss things that you care about or that -you- think are important or that -you- think you will "gain" something from. If you truly wished to do this you would not have continued this thread once you realized that line would not serve your claimed goals. Since I am not completely galvanized against John I have thought about the possibility of Human TT. Perhaps there will be a way to share the photos again but I don't expect it would convince anyone. & telling us something such as her existance would not greatly affect the outcome of our entire world.. so why not tell us? Go to my post in "I am from the year 2040" and debunk my calculations on time travel. Still haven't read the archive of posts of the mentioned board, though, sheep that I am, I'll have to take your word for it. What does this look like? traveling to the year 2001, fly a plane to the desired destination, and then go to the future from there? John,
I guess my point is that different divergences have different "loads" of importance.Enough though true freedom means looking at these consequences on a more continual basis than one would have if one were used to a more routinized existence. ((How long will it take for the loop to decay? Should I bring tin foil?Posted by Blonnie Dowden on 02-12-2001 09:27 AMQuestionplease forgive me if you have already responded to a similar question -- but i am a very curious person & can not wait to ask this..just incase i forget.. my question:you say that you can not tell us when something of very little historical importance occurs.. because we may alter/change something & look to you as a phsycic of some sort. does it play a major part in the war? I might even decide to tell you about an earthquake in Peru but then people that would have died by chance will now live and vice versa.All I can think of is to make something up. ((2) Put yourself at risk by doing so,))Yes, that's potential true but what I gain offsets that. When people use phrases like "See what I mean", "You're not hearing what I'm saying" or "Something smells fishy", they are indicating the primary sense they use to process information about a situation. I don't know any other way to tell you that I am unaware of what happens in the next week, especially in Hollywood. Good boy goes bad
i think the affect you think you'd have..is not as large as it really would be. Thus, safe time travel.I will continue with the individual posts next. and this new distance s (remember s stands for Space-time) does indeed remain constant for all who are in relative motion. The "machine" is owned by the military. Again "no Proof". Having children is such a serious issue in 2036 that birth control is almost unheard of. Would you consider that?Thanks, Nikki
)), ((If this is the case, why won't you tell us things that will give us knowledge or let us avoid death?)). -- Time Travel (http://bbs.artbell.com/forumdisplay.php?forumid=25)
. I am not familiar with Art's site what is the name of the program on the time travel organization audio and how do i find it? present paradigm, behind the 'sturm und drang' of partisan
I would also submit that you already know if you're safe or not. Thanks for the patiencegetting to the other questions. Then attach a power supply of to each tone geneator say, 12 volts / 500 Ma. close our eyes as this happens due to a short burst of ultraviolet
This problem lasted for quite a while until a very smart person came up with a very simple solution. I know you are doing the whole "not gonna tell any real information due to money being made off betting on the information you tell us". The burden of proof is on the prosecution. In fact, maybe you could just abbreviate it and put a number rating from 1-100 next to it so I know how strong you feel. There are vectors where you can approach the singularity without being crushed by gravity. Yes but there are no large commercial printing and distribution companies. The unit itself gets hot and "unapproachable" during long travel and you're usually subjected to about 2 G's. If he would answer some questions about the physics of his alledged time ship, I would be willing to go along with this some more. (2)I believe you said you had pictures of your time machine, could you post a link to uploaded images? is this a log factor ?You could send me the current GPS co ordinates for where I'm talking about and also set your cessium clock to remind you where to meet up in 2036. bring compressed air with you. Whatever you do, don't shake hands with yourself, if you do meet. I remember reading a book about 7 years ago. I find that fact to be rather hard for people to get along with so I don't bring it up directly. seems rather -one-sided- to me.)). Although, if you consistently tell of near-future events, you will rightly gain all our respect, and we will be hanging off your every word, As I said, I want to beleive, but don't give us the typical "I don't need to prove myself, I am not here to do that" Well you should be!Why come on here and spend all that time with your stories, if everyone discounts you as a crackpot. Since any "you" on another worldline would not be a mirror image, you get a slightly distorted feeling while seeing yourself, let alone the concept of speaking to yourself. What does the display show you (for instance, does it simply show things like time/date calculations, or radiation [probably wrong word] of the fields from the device? But it's logical enough to keep your story and claims going.)). So I hereby eat my words about not posting anymore. (4) In six months time give Art the encryption key and he can reveal what you said. Almost everyone has some sort of physical remnant from the war. I would really like to know if hand made items are popular or liked in the year 2036. ))I'd really like to believe thatRICK:
2. [Edited by Rick Donaldson on 02-13-2001 at 08:01 AM]Posted by Chris Greycheck on 02-13-2001 08:57 AMThumbs upRick (& John)Rick, you've made some very good points and criticisms regarding John and his claims.That's right, even a racecar driver has a basic understanding as to the physics involved in his car, so John, why can't you explain your "time machine" in greater detail?And just for the record the formula for horsepower is something along the lines of reldline rpm X 35 / 6500
& as they are big events in history i can understand (possibly) why he wouldn't want to post them but it has nothing to do with his age tell me there weren't things that happened or people that existed when you were three.. that you didn't know of then but know of now? (NKJV)
Suggesting there is a war coming is a bit different than saying avoid Washington DC at 3:45 AM on March 12, 2015. I'd have studied it very carefully, and I would ensure I had clothing of that era (up to and including the geeky classes I used to wear as a kid) to "fit in". Would you believe?I think not.What if you were able to verify that all of the above actually took place by checking declassifed documents, addresses, military records, police reports, individual personal validation by witnesses, and the only thing you could not know for sure was what was discussed at these meetings.Would you then believe? So as Mike suggested, instead of going on about fantastic time machine components and WW3, why not actually gain some credibility by correctly telling NEAR future events? Are you sure the 1/2 life of the radioactive fallout from WWIII is now / then safe in 2038 ? )I'll have to go back and take a second look. I think it was called "Time Cop". The events between worldlines are isolated and nothing I do here will affect my worldline. Excuse me for trying to take a poll.-Javier C.Posted by John Titor on 02-21-2001 06:33 AMPerhaps it goes without saying but I would urge everyone to listen to Art's show tonight.Posted by Mel Reckling on 02-21-2001 07:43 AMAm I getting this right? I left all my physics books back in the time machineand remember, just because I control your mind doesn't mean I think you're an idiot. PDF of John Titor's postings on various forums as well as copies of pictures and other materials he provided, presented in line with the original forum posts. ((Do you feel some pleasure in breathing clean air and not having to check a geiger counter every few miles?)). A good sign that he is not telling the truth. Personally I prefer our current time-line even with all of it's excess and decadency it's an exciting time to be alive and I can still multiply and divide in my head. Internationally? ((What are the rules for fraternizing with people who aren't from your time; do you make friends easily here in 2001? If you're alive then and you think ahead for some reason to do a search on yourself, you might see it. When first approaching this thread, I was expecting something to be comical, just some guy who would admit a page later that it was a joke. In the atomic clock experiments mentioned above, the reason there was a difference in time was not because the clock in the plane was moving, it was because the clock in the well was closer to the center of the Earth. The book is "When Corporations Rule the World" by John C. (7) I go on vacation in May. I will not disclose any information that may compromise any future actions by individual people or threaten their family and well-being. ( Who builds typewriters anymore and who last used the typewriter in a most infamous way? What do you think my goals are? I hope to return home with a better understanding of why you think and believe the way you do. He was the first time travler, if I remember right, he talked of a future solcialistic, self supporting society as well, a ww3, millions die, and so on, but I can't remember what time he said he was from.Posted by Craig Cuthbert on 02-15-2001 11:12 AMI also remember "The Sun Is Not Real" in which a poster had me in stitches with his theory that the present sun was switched to a holographic representation, in the late 70's? radiation. 50% of the world lives on $2.00 a day and a good portion of those not even that (general One-Worlder figure per Jimmy Carter on NPR the other day). )), Are you sure about that? . My view (with a few years under my belt), is that things work more fluidly than that.In viewing the following models take into consideration that the degrees I am talking about, are minuscule with respect to their effects on human activity -- that's why the "10%-15%" divergence over some 60 years, sounds OK to me.If you looked at a weather system of HIGH and LOW pressures, and fronts, you would see isobaric "circles" that delineate common weather areas. TouchyWhen I have a little time I'll do a keyword search for it. if you started before the new administration why are you so quick to jump to your new boss's defense and so quick to indict your previous boss?If you could, would you debate the President on internal issues? I think the thread is very interesting myself. John -- read your page. For a moving object, at least one of the lengths from which the distance, d, is calculated is contracted relative to a stationary observer. "Can you elaborate further on the matter?I appreciate you answering these questions for me John, and thank you for calling me your friend .-Javier C.HJYABJ 100Posted by Rick Donaldson on 02-16-2001 08:00 AMJohn,I want you to understand something -- since you're using our discussions to make a determination of our thinking for when you go back. I did not mean to conflict with you per se, but tell you I don't believe your story. What's your part in all this? Are airlines in operation? John came here to give somebody a "Back to the Future" type of push so as to invent the Time Machine. Am I getting this right? I sure Art Bell would volunteer, he's very interested in time travel. Around the mid-nineties I came to my conclusion re: the "isobaric" nature of both gravity and time. Yes civil liberties are more important. obviously, at least in your case, it back fired. Is John Titor your real name? it will only prove he is who/what he says he is.-blonnie-Posted by Kane Greene on 02-12-2001 12:45 PMRed faceBy Blonnie:
and a few more. tags: john-titor , machine-time , time , time-travel. you only discuss things that you care about or that -you- think are important or that -you- think you will "gain" something from. Now, in the twilight of the 21st century, this locus of capital, political influence and media control is taking on a life of its own, out of the control of even those at the top of the command heirarchy, with concommitant
Posted by Charles Moltrup on 02-08-2001 11:30 PM, How close does asteroid 2000SG344 come to earth in the year 2030 I will be 78 years old by then and want to find a big rock to hide under. More I suspect they are all prime in and of themselves and we simply have attached to this particular one. I'm still waiting. Why are you calling him a Neanderthal? John thus far has demontrated the following: Ability to discuss physics that seems to rise (eventually) to the level of the question posed. (4)I looked up the name 'Titor' in the state of Flordia on 555-1212.com and couldn't find ANY Titors, is your family not listed in the phone book? """""Yes, I will confirm the fact that John did send me the photos and I sent them to Doc ,who is also a friend of mine ,to post on his board.and I will be more than happy to post more of your manual if you want, John.sincerely,
Is that an accurate assumption? John, you are right about the significance of the 5100 so I tend to believe most of what you say about the near future will also come to pass in my personal time line. If it is not the truth for John, it is atleast an ingeniously well constructed story. 41. Since I believe time travel is possible "now" I don't have a problem with your story. you claim that if you told us.. we could alter it & keep it from happening. In other words, you can be lying to everyone big time about everything, your purpose, your motives, your reason for being here. (("keep an eye out for so-and-so..they will rise to fame." And it certainly doesn't mean that any story I may come up with is most definetly not true . ((What rank were you in the Army? ((You claim that you have no desire to prove your story to us, yet everything you have done from the moment you first posted here has flown in the face of that. ))Those are mine. The vertical distance is quite a bit shorter and is determined by sensors in the unit. yepit looks like john registered in January. (6) Do companys like Microsoft, Yahoo!, and other internet software companys still exist?No. To hear you take such a stance is laughable. If so, what were they? Someone else (I forget who it was) mentioned something about nuclear weapons being tossed from corner to corner of the earth and the impossibility of that. Yes. John,
I have been in communication with him every since.Thankyou for the link, Rick. Radiation, starvation? The vertical distance is quite a bit shorter and is determined by sensors in the unit.Pamela:3.approximately in inches how much of the ground is taken with you in one trip?timetravel_0-Depending on weather or not you are going forward or backward, the footprint of the unit is different. Will your superiors check that?Is there crimes against time? However, whether time travellers wish to demonstrate based on the above is up to them. ))A 10 Kiloton nuclear weapon will vaporize metal for about a mile and have a heat effect for about 3 miles. They are in cities after all. "First, let's examine what the Bible reveals about the origin of Satan and the demons.EZEKIEL 28:12 "Son of man, take up a lamentation for the king of Tyre, and say to him, 'Thus says the Lord GOD: "You were the seal of perfection, full of wisdom and perfect in beauty. You will be forced to ask yourself how many civil rights you will give up to feel safe. I am nuetral about him. What kind of public punishment is there? ((I believe that faith AND good works will get one to God. 6:19-28; 8:6-7; I Chr. James. Yes, there are same sex marriages but it's not very common. Again, my viewpoint is quite squewed. Government Phycisists do not really discuss time travel with "System Engineers". ))I submit there is no way for me to prove anything on the internet, therefore it makes no sense to desire it. So lets say that that the mass is about 700 lbs per traveller. (For those interested in seeing a graphic of a photon trip through a Kerr black hole, try here)
If P.C. but in general? I say science, as I understand it, has had the opposite effect on many others.I like to think, and the more I think, the more I become convinced that my beliefs are accurate enough for my purposes.But, they are beliefs, and I could not prove them to you.Another reason why I am stubborn in some of these beliefs, the religious ones and other parts of my philosophy is because it feels right -- almost as if by intuition or subconscious communications from 'the other side'.I don't think the possibility of TT disagrees in any way with any of the elements of my philosophy.I think many reading this thread would like you to expound on the elements of your philosophy, John.I vaguely remember you mentioned being religious . I have never said he was a fake or a fraud, or a liar, actually, I expressed frustration at the seemingly all important "is he or isn't he" debate.I propose that "what John is" is irrelevant to this conversation. 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